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		By: thesaurus rex		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thesaurus rex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2025 09:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent, will buy (despite the colour, but that can be fixed i guess)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, will buy (despite the colour, but that can be fixed i guess)</p>
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		By: Rnedp		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rnedp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2025 15:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I saw this yesterday at SB25 and actually I prefer it to the full-size module - the larger screen and 6 knobs above seems to work a little better for me - Groove Synthesis confirmed it is rack mountable and - a little thing maybe - but they&#039;ve matched the blue of the overlay much closer to the kbd now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this yesterday at SB25 and actually I prefer it to the full-size module &#8211; the larger screen and 6 knobs above seems to work a little better for me &#8211; Groove Synthesis confirmed it is rack mountable and &#8211; a little thing maybe &#8211; but they&#8217;ve matched the blue of the overlay much closer to the kbd now.</p>
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		By: Scott LaPointe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott LaPointe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2025 13:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Will this have a 19&quot; rack kit?]]></description>
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		By: Underwaterbob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Underwaterbob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2025 08:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://synthanatomy.com/2025/07/groove-synthesis-3rd-wave-8m-hybrid-wavetable-ppg-style-synthesizer-with-8-voices-and-cheaper.html#comment-140831&quot;&gt;frodo&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah, exactly. Almost the only thing hardware has over software anymore is the UI. When a piece of hardware&#039;s UI becomes less immediate, fun, or intuitive than software, may as well use software.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://synthanatomy.com/2025/07/groove-synthesis-3rd-wave-8m-hybrid-wavetable-ppg-style-synthesizer-with-8-voices-and-cheaper.html#comment-140831">frodo</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah, exactly. Almost the only thing hardware has over software anymore is the UI. When a piece of hardware&#8217;s UI becomes less immediate, fun, or intuitive than software, may as well use software.</p>
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		By: Rango		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rango]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2025 06:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://synthanatomy.com/2025/07/groove-synthesis-3rd-wave-8m-hybrid-wavetable-ppg-style-synthesizer-with-8-voices-and-cheaper.html#comment-140831&quot;&gt;frodo&lt;/a&gt;.

One might say, it&#039;s more focused than, and you will always have the &quot;problem&quot;, that a Launchpad, Launch Control or any other MIDI controller are not specifically made with a UI workflow in mind, like i.e. the Elektron boxes do.

For clarification, I&#039;m no hardware gear nut, because especially for digital synths like this, it&#039;s hard to justify a price tag of 2k for a software with knobs. In the end, it&#039;s the user experience, I buy hardware for, not the sound. You can have any sound (yes, also analog or analog sounding, fight me, bros), but it&#039;s the approach to making, creating, finding new sounds, that makes me buy hardware.


In this regard, I can&#039;t recommend the modwave module enough. It&#039;s flys so low under the radar and has gotten so dirt cheap, has a software integration and a software version and is so insanely powerful. I mean... it strikes the perfect balance between usability and giving you outboard controls and sound. In the end, any Serum, Phaseplant or Pigments will be more powerful and I just think, that there&#039;s a physical limit of what you can build as a hardware UI, before it gets incredibly expensive like the Waldorf stuff.

Long story short... I think the value to money ratio on this one is a bit steep for what it is (also it&#039;s butt ugly, but that&#039;s my opinion). I use the modwave with the Launchpad Pro for performance, btw. Two octaves so I can play splits and then the four macro knobs mapped as faders. Super fun.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://synthanatomy.com/2025/07/groove-synthesis-3rd-wave-8m-hybrid-wavetable-ppg-style-synthesizer-with-8-voices-and-cheaper.html#comment-140831">frodo</a>.</p>
<p>One might say, it&#8217;s more focused than, and you will always have the &#8220;problem&#8221;, that a Launchpad, Launch Control or any other MIDI controller are not specifically made with a UI workflow in mind, like i.e. the Elektron boxes do.</p>
<p>For clarification, I&#8217;m no hardware gear nut, because especially for digital synths like this, it&#8217;s hard to justify a price tag of 2k for a software with knobs. In the end, it&#8217;s the user experience, I buy hardware for, not the sound. You can have any sound (yes, also analog or analog sounding, fight me, bros), but it&#8217;s the approach to making, creating, finding new sounds, that makes me buy hardware.</p>
<p>In this regard, I can&#8217;t recommend the modwave module enough. It&#8217;s flys so low under the radar and has gotten so dirt cheap, has a software integration and a software version and is so insanely powerful. I mean&#8230; it strikes the perfect balance between usability and giving you outboard controls and sound. In the end, any Serum, Phaseplant or Pigments will be more powerful and I just think, that there&#8217;s a physical limit of what you can build as a hardware UI, before it gets incredibly expensive like the Waldorf stuff.</p>
<p>Long story short&#8230; I think the value to money ratio on this one is a bit steep for what it is (also it&#8217;s butt ugly, but that&#8217;s my opinion). I use the modwave with the Launchpad Pro for performance, btw. Two octaves so I can play splits and then the four macro knobs mapped as faders. Super fun.</p>
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		By: MYC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MYC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2025 04:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://synthanatomy.com/2025/07/groove-synthesis-3rd-wave-8m-hybrid-wavetable-ppg-style-synthesizer-with-8-voices-and-cheaper.html#comment-140831&quot;&gt;frodo&lt;/a&gt;.

Mayer MD850 (which actually has 8 extra voices!). Yeah, not going to go for these things either. Those need to come with an editor, which will turn them into preset boxes with some live controls. I suppose there&#039;s a market for these though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://synthanatomy.com/2025/07/groove-synthesis-3rd-wave-8m-hybrid-wavetable-ppg-style-synthesizer-with-8-voices-and-cheaper.html#comment-140831">frodo</a>.</p>
<p>Mayer MD850 (which actually has 8 extra voices!). Yeah, not going to go for these things either. Those need to come with an editor, which will turn them into preset boxes with some live controls. I suppose there&#8217;s a market for these though.</p>
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		By: frodo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[frodo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2025 22:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The user interface is really important to me when buying an instrument. The 3rd Wave 8M and Waldorf Iridium Core both make me a bit nervous -- they&#039;re stripping an important part of the instrument down to the bare minimum. At some point, it makes more sense to buy a $200 Launch Pad pro and a softsynth instead because it will be more hands-on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The user interface is really important to me when buying an instrument. The 3rd Wave 8M and Waldorf Iridium Core both make me a bit nervous &#8212; they&#8217;re stripping an important part of the instrument down to the bare minimum. At some point, it makes more sense to buy a $200 Launch Pad pro and a softsynth instead because it will be more hands-on.</p>
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